Licensee Close-Up: Dariusz Klupi
Dariusz Klupi is a licensed Dynamic Emotional Integration® Trainer who lives in Kraków, Poland. He has spent over 20 years working in the IT industry in organizations of various size in 3 countries in Europe and Asia. He offers DEI workshops in Polish and English.
Q&A with Dariusz Klupi
What brought you to this work?
In general, a need to understand emotions, both current and those from the past. I received a newsletter from Sounds True and Art of Empathy was there. I had bought some materials from Sounds True before and trusted that it would be valuable stuff. I bought the book, familiarized myself with the material on Karla’s website, and became fascinated with it.
What other work do you do, and do you combine DEI with that work?
I offer managers and leaders a 12 module program where 80% is based on DEI and Karla’s books. I leave them with the understanding of the 17 emotions, shadow mechanisms as the frequent source of emotions that have not much to do with situations at work, with anxiety as a workhorse emotion to get things done on time, and how to work with agitators instead of being angry and pacifying them. The other 20% is on perspective taking and avoidance mechanisms.
What do you do for fun? What are your hobbies?
I watch movies, and have loooong conversations with my wife. I love intimacy, I like helping.
What type of clients do you work with?
Managers.
What are some of the highlights of the work you’ve done with DEI?
DEI is simple and readily applicable even to those who don’t hold emotions in high regard. I’m proud of my video testimonials. You can find them here. I also changed the name of my business from EC+E (Emotional Competence + Empathy) to “Be Logically Emotional” to highlight my systems approach and my technical background.
What are your most recent projects?

I recently prepared a 6-week program for mid-level managers and leaders that aims at raising their competence noticeably. The pilot was successful and now I want to scale it, marketise it, and extend it. It’s 12 weeks now.
Where do you see yourself in regard to this work in the future?
I want to share this knowledge and skills with others. I’ll keep experimenting with what sells and helps at the same time and adjust to circumstances.
How has DEI most impacted your own life?
Trauma resolution and increased self-awareness. Massively increased comfort with having emotions. Before DEI, emotions could linger in their medium-state for weeks, especially the more difficult ones like situational depression, or grudges. Now I can turn them to action, and they ebb when the job is done. Liberating! Panic and envy helped me to identify nuances of traumas of rejection and unworthiness.
If you had to pick one small piece of DEI that you love the most, or one part that has had the most impact, what would it be?
Nooooo, don’t make me choose! I’d have to go through our manuals and select pieces I haven’t recognized value in. It’s a great program. DEI’s approach to trauma was very impactful. And so is understanding what emotions are and why we have them.
Thanks, Dariusz!

Dariusz Klupi is a licensed Dynamic Emotional Integration® professional who offers in-person workshops and trainings in Poland and on-line globally. He focuses on practical applications of emotional skills and empathy in workplaces. His specialty is modern management and leadership, and approaches like Agile, Scrum, Teal, and Holacracy. For Dariusz, a good understanding of emotions is a foundation for efficient, effective, innovative, psychologically safe, and creative environments, and he is convinced that empathy in leadership has become a necessity.
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